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	<title>Comments on: A new toolbar for Tomboy proposal</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Wendt</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-3261</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Wendt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 16:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as I can disable it, I\&#039;m all for it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as I can disable it, I\&#8217;m all for it <img src='http://ivanz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Wendt</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-19787</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Wendt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 14:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as I can disable it, I&#039;m all for it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as I can disable it, I&#8217;m all for it <img src='http://ivanz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rafael "Monoman" Teixeira</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-3222</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael "Monoman" Teixeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ribbons anyone? Just kidding...

But one of the few things I really dislike on most gnome-apps (perhaps it is something covered in one of the usability guidelines) are uncostumizable toolbars. I really like to customize my toolbars (like I do in OpenOffice.org), and add the buttons I feel I need to use more often. Particularly, I would put mostly all formatting things in Tomboy notes&#039; toolbar, as I use a good-sized monitor and nearly NEVER write short notes (or even paragraphs as you can see here).

Fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ribbons anyone? Just kidding&#8230;</p>
<p>But one of the few things I really dislike on most gnome-apps (perhaps it is something covered in one of the usability guidelines) are uncostumizable toolbars. I really like to customize my toolbars (like I do in OpenOffice.org), and add the buttons I feel I need to use more often. Particularly, I would put mostly all formatting things in Tomboy notes&#8217; toolbar, as I use a good-sized monitor and nearly NEVER write short notes (or even paragraphs as you can see here).</p>
<p>Fun</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan N. Zlatev</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-3219</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan N. Zlatev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree about the +/- in terms of not &quot;compatible&quot; with gnome. But I still think that drop down menus mean more clicking and for such a simple task as a simple note 2 clicks for setting bold is too much. I also agree that advanced users will use Ctrl-B when editing the note (so do I), but I find my self changing formating after the note is written quite often, e.g strike out completed tasks or highlight something important for the next hour, etc - and that is much easier with the mouse and single click formatting changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree about the +/- in terms of not &#8220;compatible&#8221; with gnome. But I still think that drop down menus mean more clicking and for such a simple task as a simple note 2 clicks for setting bold is too much. I also agree that advanced users will use Ctrl-B when editing the note (so do I), but I find my self changing formating after the note is written quite often, e.g strike out completed tasks or highlight something important for the next hour, etc &#8211; and that is much easier with the mouse and single click formatting changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael "Monoman" Teixeira</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-19786</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael "Monoman" Teixeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ribbons anyone? Just kidding...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But one of the few things I really dislike on most gnome-apps (perhaps it is something covered in one of the usability guidelines) are uncostumizable toolbars. I really like to customize my toolbars (like I do in &lt;a href=&quot;http://OpenOffice.org&quot;&gt;OpenOffice.org&lt;/a&gt;), and add the buttons I feel I need to use more often. Particularly, I would put mostly all formatting things in Tomboy notes&#039; toolbar, as I use a good-sized monitor and nearly NEVER write short notes (or even paragraphs as you can see here).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ribbons anyone? Just kidding&#8230;</p>
<p>But one of the few things I really dislike on most gnome-apps (perhaps it is something covered in one of the usability guidelines) are uncostumizable toolbars. I really like to customize my toolbars (like I do in <a href="http://OpenOffice.org">OpenOffice.org</a>), and add the buttons I feel I need to use more often. Particularly, I would put mostly all formatting things in Tomboy notes&#8217; toolbar, as I use a good-sized monitor and nearly NEVER write short notes (or even paragraphs as you can see here).</p>
<p>Fun</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Pryor</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-3218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Pryor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Feel free to shoot out my idea.&quot;

I&#039;m not fond of it, actually, mostly because the &#039;+&#039;/&#039;-&#039; is not normally used to show/hide toolbars, so it&#039;s inconsistent with the rest of the Gnome UI.

What might make more sense is a drop-down button-menu that would show the Italic/Bold/Underline/etc. buttons.  Normally you would expect these to be used via keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+B, etc.), so the added button click shouldn&#039;t be a major hindrance for reasonably advanced users.

Alternatively, (slightly) rethink the whole concept.

Instead of two buttons for font-size increase/decrease, have a drop-down list of potential font sizes.  Instead of 4 buttons for bold/italic/underline/strike-through, have a drop-down grid (like Gnumeric&#039;s foreground/background color selection widget) that shows all 16 combinations of bold/italic/underline/strike-through in combination:

[clear]
bold bi     bu        bs
bi   italic iu        is
bu   iu     underline us
bs   is     su        strike-through

(b=bold, i=italic, u=underline, s=strike-through)

You could have a similar drop-down menu for bullet selection (bullets, numbers, shapes...), etc.

You might be able to get everything onto a single toolbar doing this.

 - Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Feel free to shoot out my idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not fond of it, actually, mostly because the &#8216;+&#8217;/'-&#8217; is not normally used to show/hide toolbars, so it&#8217;s inconsistent with the rest of the Gnome UI.</p>
<p>What might make more sense is a drop-down button-menu that would show the Italic/Bold/Underline/etc. buttons.  Normally you would expect these to be used via keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+B, etc.), so the added button click shouldn&#8217;t be a major hindrance for reasonably advanced users.</p>
<p>Alternatively, (slightly) rethink the whole concept.</p>
<p>Instead of two buttons for font-size increase/decrease, have a drop-down list of potential font sizes.  Instead of 4 buttons for bold/italic/underline/strike-through, have a drop-down grid (like Gnumeric&#8217;s foreground/background color selection widget) that shows all 16 combinations of bold/italic/underline/strike-through in combination:</p>
<p>[clear]<br />
bold bi     bu        bs<br />
bi   italic iu        is<br />
bu   iu     underline us<br />
bs   is     su        strike-through</p>
<p>(b=bold, i=italic, u=underline, s=strike-through)</p>
<p>You could have a similar drop-down menu for bullet selection (bullets, numbers, shapes&#8230;), etc.</p>
<p>You might be able to get everything onto a single toolbar doing this.</p>
<p> &#8211; Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan N. Zlatev</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-19785</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan N. Zlatev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree about the +/- in terms of not &quot;compatible&quot; with gnome. But I still think that drop down menus mean more clicking and for such a simple task as a simple note 2 clicks for setting bold is too much. I also agree that advanced users will use Ctrl-B when editing the note (so do I), but I find my self changing formating after the note is written quite often, e.g strike out completed tasks or highlight something important for the next hour, etc - and that is much easier with the mouse and single click formatting changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree about the +/- in terms of not &#8220;compatible&#8221; with gnome. But I still think that drop down menus mean more clicking and for such a simple task as a simple note 2 clicks for setting bold is too much. I also agree that advanced users will use Ctrl-B when editing the note (so do I), but I find my self changing formating after the note is written quite often, e.g strike out completed tasks or highlight something important for the next hour, etc &#8211; and that is much easier with the mouse and single click formatting changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Pryor</title>
		<link>http://ivanz.com/2007/04/26/a-new-toolbar-for-tomboy-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-19784</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Pryor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Feel free to shoot out my idea.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not fond of it, actually, mostly because the &#039;+&#039;/&#039;-&#039; is not normally used to show/hide toolbars, so it&#039;s inconsistent with the rest of the Gnome UI.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What might make more sense is a drop-down button-menu that would show the Italic/Bold/Underline/etc. buttons.  Normally you would expect these to be used via keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+B, etc.), so the added button click shouldn&#039;t be a major hindrance for reasonably advanced users.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alternatively, (slightly) rethink the whole concept.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Instead of two buttons for font-size increase/decrease, have a drop-down list of potential font sizes.  Instead of 4 buttons for bold/italic/underline/strike-through, have a drop-down grid (like Gnumeric&#039;s foreground/background color selection widget) that shows all 16 combinations of bold/italic/underline/strike-through in combination:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[clear]&lt;br&gt;bold bi     bu        bs&lt;br&gt;bi   italic iu        is&lt;br&gt;bu   iu     underline us&lt;br&gt;bs   is     su        strike-through&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(b=bold, i=italic, u=underline, s=strike-through)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You could have a similar drop-down menu for bullet selection (bullets, numbers, shapes...), etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You might be able to get everything onto a single toolbar doing this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; - Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Feel free to shoot out my idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not fond of it, actually, mostly because the &#8216;+&#8217;/'-&#8217; is not normally used to show/hide toolbars, so it&#8217;s inconsistent with the rest of the Gnome UI.</p>
<p>What might make more sense is a drop-down button-menu that would show the Italic/Bold/Underline/etc. buttons.  Normally you would expect these to be used via keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+B, etc.), so the added button click shouldn&#8217;t be a major hindrance for reasonably advanced users.</p>
<p>Alternatively, (slightly) rethink the whole concept.</p>
<p>Instead of two buttons for font-size increase/decrease, have a drop-down list of potential font sizes.  Instead of 4 buttons for bold/italic/underline/strike-through, have a drop-down grid (like Gnumeric&#8217;s foreground/background color selection widget) that shows all 16 combinations of bold/italic/underline/strike-through in combination:</p>
<p>[clear]<br />bold bi     bu        bs<br />bi   italic iu        is<br />bu   iu     underline us<br />bs   is     su        strike-through</p>
<p>(b=bold, i=italic, u=underline, s=strike-through)</p>
<p>You could have a similar drop-down menu for bullet selection (bullets, numbers, shapes&#8230;), etc.</p>
<p>You might be able to get everything onto a single toolbar doing this.</p>
<p> &#8211; Jon</p>
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